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Ken Griffey Jr. went to the team where his daddy was a star of the Big Red Machine. This was going to be a story book ending. The Cincinnati Reds fans were all excited as baseball was back, and now were sure to host some fall classics. Ken Griffey Jr. delivered big in his initial season at the Great American Ballpark, to the tune of 40 homeruns and 118 RBI’s. Then came the 2002 season and the fairy tale seemed to take the same course as the Titanic. The next four seasons Griffey never played more than 111 games for the Red Legs and fans became outraged. Ken Griffey began to question his decision to come to Cincinnati as the fans were disenchanted and questioning his desire to play the game.
So I ask you: how can we say Ken Griffey Jr. is a team player? We condemned Griffey for not playing a game that he is paid $12 Million per year to play, yet if he chose to stay on the field by any means necessary, he would be suffering the same fate of Clemens, Bonds, and Rodriguez. Once again the issue is not with the players, it is you the fans. Ken Griffey Jr. could have recovered from some of those injuries more quickly and assisted the Reds out of National League Central Division cellar. The fans of the Cincinnati Reds thought Griffey was overpaid, spoiled, and lacking desire. He chose to forego his obligations to his fans, his salary, teammates and would not consider the needle. Given the negative perceptions of Ken Griffey Jr., the fans would have supplied the syringe to have Griffey take centerfield. A quote from Adam Dunn reacting to the angry Cincinnati fans to one of juniors injuries.
Dunn wouldn't even repeat the words he heard from these so-called fans.
So all the Reds fans who sit in there recliners slobbering on Skyline chili and Montgomery Inn ribs cannot be knocking Alex Rodriguez for wanting to stay on the field! That’s right Reds' fans, you wanted Junior on the field and he refused to “do whatever it takes.” You ripped him. So which way do you want it? You cannot have it both ways. How would our perceptions of the former $40 Million savior of the New York Yankees pitching staff changed if he had a little enhancement. That is right all you Yankees fans currently bashing Alex Rodriguez, please get a position and stick with it. When did self-righteous Yankee fans become John Kerry supporters? Talk about flip floppers. Carl Pavano, do you know what he looks like, Yankee fan? Hey Yankee fan, do you even know what number he wore without looking it up? The answers are “No” and “No.” Why do you rip Alex Rodriguez? Alex Rodriguez is for everything Carl Pavano is not. Alex Rodriguez was paid huge sums of money to play the game of baseball. Yet, he has a guaranteed contract for the rest of his playing career and he cannot sleep at night. Alex Rodriguez wants to deliver on the 300 million dollars he is paid at any costs. He has changed positions, to help his team and works like a dog practicing a craft he has already mastered. Alex Rodriguez is not the problem with baseball; the problem is with the fans who want it both ways. Carl Pavano: “I am not going to blow out my arm for this organization.”
Alex Rodriguez: “I will do anything to make myself a better player.” Which do you want on your team?
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written by kevinorris, February 16, 2009 Who needs A-Rod when you have studs like Andruw Jones taking his craft to sublime levels every day? If there's one thing that I've learned so far, it's that Boris From Downunder loves him some Andruw Jones.
written by Boris From Downunder, February 16, 2009
Who needs A-Rod when you have studs like Andruw Jones taking his craft to sublime levels every day?
written by tonycincotta, February 11, 2009
Guys,
I just wanted to let you know , we are not deleting comments to this post. We actually have so many it is causing some issues. I think that is a good thing keep them coming we are reading everyone. Tony
written by tonycincotta, February 11, 2009
Ken Griffey Jr. -- Worthless..." I couldn't have said it better myself.
John Conroy Bethesda, Md. Check this article out from USA Today. I go to a great many sporting events and talk to peole all day about sports. There is no doubt in my mind that my comment is 100 % accurate. Thanks for the feedback, as you can see in the other posts in this article. It has become an emotional topic. http://www.usatoday.com/sports...over_x.htm
written by tonycincotta, February 11, 2009
I love the idea of having such forums to discuss ideas, feelings, and deliver passion of a true sports fan. Yet we are going to have to agree to disagree.
Tony Cincotta:"The fact is that most fans are jealous of the paychecks and just want to rip today’s young millionaires."What is the factual data that you have to support this outrageous and slanderous comment?" I talk to allot of people on a daily basis and here is a common line used when speaking of today’s athletes. “With all the money they are getting paid...." We have instances of fans throwing money at players. It is not just sports that jealous fans deliver their wrath due to the successes of others. We see movie stars and other celebrities suffer the same fate. As far as sources- Seattle fans throw money at Alex Rodriguez http://www.heckledepot.com/fanrate.shtml More Ken Griffey fans (Pretty Fair Player) The Reds' clubhouse quote on ESPN.com on Tuesday reads, "'4 Reds tickets -- $30, 4 Sodas -- $10, 4 Hotdogs -- $15, Ken Griffey Jr. -- Worthless..." I couldn't have said it better myself. John Conroy Bethesda, Md. Check this article out from USA Today. I go to a great many sporting events and talk to people all day about sports. There is no doubt in my mind that my comment is 100 % accurate. Thanks for the feedback, as you can see in the other posts in this article. It has become an emotional topic. http://www.usatoday.com/sports...over_x.htm
written by Shai, February 11, 2009
As far as the statement that the fans are to blame, I really believe that you are either being sarcastic here, or you are just totally off base.
And one more thing: You stated in the article that- "The fact is that most fans are jealous of the paychecks and just want to rip today’s young millionaires." What is the factual data that you have to support this outrageous and slanderous comment? Did you take a poll of a majority of baseball fans in the world? I bet you don't have any proof of this, and I request that you apologize to "most fans".
written by Shai, February 11, 2009
Tony,
I disagree with your take on this entire subject. I teach my 10 year old son the difference between right and wrong. No gray areas here. Honesty and integrity will always be a part of who you are as a person. I teach my son to play hard, but FAIR. Losing IS ok, it is just a game for you and I. As far as A-FROID is concerned, I don't buy his bs for a second. He lied to Couric, and he's lying now too. He committed fraud; Fraud is committed when you have 3 ingredients present....pressure, opportunity and rationalization. Yes, he has pressure, but not because of the contract that he had already signed...he has self-imposed pressure due to greed; he wanted to be the best, at any cost! No, Tony, the ends do not justify the means.Endorsements, more money, fame and fortune, that's what this arrogant kid wanted. Canseco provided the opportunity, and I am sure it was easy for him to rationalize this, since he was so consumed with greed.
written by Ed, February 11, 2009
The whole thing smacks of hypocrisy and I'm glad someone finally pointed it out. We want to see W's and that's the bottom line. As a Giants fan, I can attest that when it's on your team and you're winning, damn what the fans of the other 29 think.
Personally, if MLB and MLBPA had their heads in the sand, and once they pulled it out they've left the players to hang on the issue. But MLB and MLBPA were only caring about the bottom line and squeezing every dollar they could from the fans. Health and fairness be damned- they were both guilty for chasing the dollars. While I disagree with this in hindsight, I don't feel the players should be punished for competing in the environment created by the two parties. Unfortunately, the crime for posterity will stick to the players and not those who created the atmosphere for PED's to thrive.
written by patrick dicaprio, February 10, 2009
boy it didnt take long for Godwin's Law to show up....
written by tonycincotta, February 10, 2009
that will provide you and your kids family a life of luxury is wrong ! It may not be wrong but it comes at a price and you can look at Roger Clemens, Alex Rodriguez, and Barry Bonds. Would you choose money or integrity ? What is your answer ! I am not sure I would give my kid a straight answer...Would you ?
written by tonycincotta, February 10, 2009
Great points but once again I cannot agree.
"Maybe the fact that we keep having to pay more money to see a game because of these guys salaries." When teams cut salaries do the owners cut ticket prices ? NO, I am all for the players getting the money. The ticket prices would still be high as they are today no matter what the players make. It is called supply and demand. If you gus keep paying the ticket prices ( You are! Attendance records 5 consecutive years) the owners would keep the cash. The fan is paying either way, we are the sucker. Great Question here ! What would i say to a kid who asks "Do they all Cheat?" Here is what I would say. This would be different for each family. I would love to hear some responses. Son,I don't think they all do. Yea but some do ! When you get older you will have decisions to make. These players have given you great expamples of the different paths one can take. I am not saying one is right or one is wrong. They are different ! Am I to say by taking a drug that will provide you and your kids family a life of luxury is wrong ! It may not be wrong but it comes at a price and you can look at Roger Clemens, Alex Rodriguez, and Barry Bonds. Would you choose money or integrity ? What is your answer ! I am not sure I would give my kid a straight answer...Would you ?
written by tonycincotta, February 10, 2009
All great points !!! Yet I cannot agree, with most of the points.
On my kid getting a C, it is not because he needed to cheat. It is because his dad is too busy working too jobs and no one does his homework with him. We let our kids play PLAYSTATION III for a couple hours a day and think a library is a museum. On the Rodriguez interview, he was all over the place..He did say time and time again..He felt pressure to fufill his large contract.
written by big o, February 10, 2009
what if they were all blond hair , blue-eyed germans , patrick ?
or how about this ===> down the street from your house is a sperm bank specializing in high-grade baseball babies .... guaranteed !!
written by ChuckAnderson, February 10, 2009
Tony, I think you chose a poor comparison here. Did, at any point in his rambling interview, Rodriguez say he took steroids to "stay on the field" or "recover faster"?
Also, by your logic, should you be upset with your kid because he got an honest C when he could have cheated off the smarty pants next to him and gotten an A?
written by Scott Gilroy, February 10, 2009
I love ya Tony but you are off base here. How can you blame the fans(Cinncinati fans,i cant vouch for). Were jealous of the players!! Maybe the fact that we keep having to pay more money to see a game because of these guys salaries. Maybe we expect to see a little production.I dont call that jealousy. I personally have never booed a player for nonperformance,only for lack of effort.
To say a guy is not a Team Player because he wouldnt take Steroids?! Thats Rough! What would i say to a kid who asks "Do they all Cheat?"
written by JoeLano, February 10, 2009
I never said MLB "forced guys to stick needles in themselves" I said they allowed it to go on.
As an editor, I would think you would read the entire sentance before makeing a comment.
written by MichaelMuschiano, February 10, 2009
This is off-topic but I'm waiting to the see the other 103 players on this list. Everyone loves to criticize A-Rod because he makes top dollar, struggles under pressure, and plays in New York. I can't wait to see what all these fans of other teams, who are slapping high fives and doing celebrating over this, when some of their beloved stars appear on this list. I give credit to the players that resisted using these drugs, but to think that only the players who are being publicly humiliated for it (i.e. A-Rod, Bonds, Clemens), is just naive. Alright, I'm finished--sorry for this rant. This stems from just hearing too many fans this week celebrate a fact that doesn't just hurt the Yankees, or A-Rod--this hurts baseball.
written by Kevin Orris, February 10, 2009
We watch and follow baseball for entertainment, but for some reason, we don't want to be fully entertained. I think it would find it more entertaining for players to be playing at their best.
We will never everyone who did and didn't do it, and we have to bite the bullet on that one. If I had my choice, of course I wouldn't want steroids involved, but were to the point where it is in fact unstoppable. There is only so much that the MLB can do, and that is even if they are willing to do it.
written by patrick dicaprio, February 10, 2009
MLB?? i see they forced guys to stick needles in themselves...
FWIW i have no problem at all with pro athletes taking PEDs.
written by JoeLano, February 10, 2009
All this is not the fault of the fans, it is the fault of MLB itself for allowing the drug use to continue for so long.
After the strike of 1994 baseball was hurting, until 1998 when McGwire and Sosa put on that sham chasing 61 HR. Baseball was relevant again and making money so MLB looked the other way. When do the big shots at MLB start getting in trouble for creating this monster.
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Here we go again: another baseball player committing the ultimate sin of trying to make himself a better ballplayer by taking steroids. Alex Rodriguez at 25 years of age became the richest player in baseball, yet wanted to live up to a record-breaking contract. Is it astonishing that a guy wanted to live up to expectations and not just cash checks? Alex Rodriguez has delivered, and then some, on a record contract as the best player in baseball over the past nine seasons.
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